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on Tue Dec 29 2015, 19:11
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I have been through it a few times now and have started coming to some concloosions about it, firstly the right turn into Poolstock Lane seems to operate in the same way as the right turn into Sainsburys, in that because traffic waiting to turn right at Sainsburys, invariably backs down the duel carriageway, blocking the right hand lane of the duel carriageway, when the lights operate to allow traffic to turn right into Sainsburys, the lights seem to remain on green until all the traffic as cleared the slip road and the same seems to be happening at the right turn into Poolstock Lane, the lights and sensors in the road allow most, if not all of the traffic wishing to turn right into Poolstock Lane to do so, before changing back to red and also and this should please tomplum (but it probably won't) when the traffic is flowing into Poolstock Lane from the duel carriageway, the traffic lights are on green for traffic turning left from Poolstock Lane on to the duel carriageway cheers

I suppose like gaffer suggested that could be improved by building a proper slip road from Poolstock Lane on to the duel carriageway on the land available there, but they (the powers that bee) want to discourage traffic from using Poolstock Lane and instead want the traffic to use the duel carriageway through Goose Green instead.

So I think the losers are traffic which uses Highfield Grange Avenue, which is folk who live in Winstanley and traffic which uses Winstanley as a rat run, well traffic shouldn't use Winstanley as a rat run and folk who live in Winstanley, well you shouldn't have moved to Winstanley should you, because in any case it's full of scousers affraid

Winners seem to be traffic coming down from the motorway towards Wigan and to a lesser extent traffic heading away from Wigan on the duel carriageway through Goose Green, because that traffic as to wait for traffic turning right into Poolstock Lane, but when new link road is built, there should be a lot less traffic wanting to go down Poolstock Lane, so that should speed things up for traffic heading away from Wigan Smile




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on Wed Jun 15 2016, 19:06
What do you expect when they removed the island
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on Wed Jun 15 2016, 19:12
@stumpy wrote:the BBC still call it Marus bridge roundabout
St Helens folk, the BBC, Wish FM etc etc still call Windle Island, Windle Island, when it ceased being a roundabout, many, many, many, many moons ago Very Happy

Folk called Saddle Junction, Saddle Junction long before it was officially named Saddle Junction, when they built the gyratory there.

Grapes at Orrell, how long since The Grapes Pub was demolished and they still call that junction The Grapes.

Pony Dick, folk still call the dip in between Highfield and Winstanley the Pony Dick and that pub has been gone for decades.

The only junction for me which as lost it's name is the the Foundary junction and who knows where that was Very Happy
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on Wed Jun 15 2016, 19:16
Top of Darlington Street. Pepper Mill. Its all changed since I was a kid
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on Wed Jun 15 2016, 19:41
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Probably trying to  turn back stumpy. It may take some time for that lot to drain away or be pumped away Shocked
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on Thu Jun 16 2016, 09:07
Drivers leaving the M6 at Marus Bridge found themselves marooned in deep water as the sudden downpour brought everything to a standstill.

Several house on Atholl Grove were also flooded when a brook which runs behind the street overflowed.

Firefighters were called to the street at around 7.30pm last night, Wednesday, when a heavy downpour overwhelmed the brook and the sewage system.



Read more: http://www.wigantoday.net/news/local/drivers-stranded-by-flash-floods-1-7966696#ixzz4BjBPm86J


Wigan Council ‏@WiganCouncil 11h11 hours ago
We are aware of flooding in 15 properties in the Poolstock area this evening. We have visited them all to check on welfare.
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on Thu Jun 16 2016, 11:19
Fireplace thinks that flooding was caused by them removing the roundabout, he says "it's nowt do with weather it never happened when roundabout was there"
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on Thu Jun 16 2016, 11:39
He could well be right.
Some drains may have been removed. I can suggest much soakaway was removed, and this exacerbates the problem.
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on Thu Jun 16 2016, 19:36
the contractors were there on site today, they'll have to answer some awkward questions, It might give them chance to put the 'big dipper' right into highfield grange, Very Happy
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on Thu Jun 16 2016, 22:25
It was Hawkley Brook which flooded and took out three schools (up stream from the junction) and houses in Hawkley Hall, downstream from where the junction is and it would have flooded even if the roundabout was still there.
The reason the {{{{{{{{{AREA}}}}}}}}} flooded, was because of weather, not bad drainage on the new junction, in fact the new junction is actually higher up than the roundabout was.
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on Thu Jun 16 2016, 22:46
This is the sort of weather we have been having around here in the last couple of days Shocked

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on Fri Jun 17 2016, 16:02
downstream from where the junction is and it would have flooded even if the roundabout was still there.

only God can make a statement like that sir bob, removing the island has made a valley, there are only 2 rules to water,
1. its wet
2. it floods valleys,
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on Fri Jun 17 2016, 22:29
@tomplum wrote: downstream from where the junction is and it would have flooded even if the roundabout was still there.

only God can make a statement like that sir bob, removing the island has made a valley, there are only 2 rules to water,
1. its wet
2. it floods valleys,
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How the hell as remooving the roundabout made a valley ?

I have been told a tale today about a house in Hawkley Hall and when the rain fell the garden and patio flooded and then the water got into the house and the first the owner of the house knew about it, was when the cat litter tray floated out of the kitchen and into the lounge on a wall of water.
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on Fri Jun 17 2016, 22:43
How the hell as remooving the roundabout made a valley ?

the island was high ground, they took all that away, It might have disperse the incoming water from all four roads and evened things out ( a bit like traffic management) , now all the water meets in the middle with no where to go ( a bit like traffic management) and you get chaos,

lesson one, don't tamper with nature,
lesson two, don't fix what aint broke,

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on Fri Jun 17 2016, 22:49
and it's not in Poolstock...........

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on Fri Jun 17 2016, 22:50
and the school one only that was flooded was Marus Bridge Primary.....

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on Fri Jun 17 2016, 22:56
@Vixen wrote:and the school one only that was flooded was Marus Bridge Primary.....

•Marus Bridge Primary School - remains shut today and also likely to be shut to pupils tomorrow with damage to the hall and classrooms. Parents are encouraged to check the school’s website and Facebook page for more updates.

•Hope School – some minor flooding but no damage and the school remains open.

•St Aiden’s RC Primary – damage to Lower KS2 classrooms toilets and office. School is open.


http://www.wigantoday.net/news/local/drivers-stranded-by-flash-floods-1-7966696

I am not saying you are wrong vixen, you will be right, but that is what our wonderful local media reported tongue
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on Fri Jun 17 2016, 22:59
@tomplum wrote:How the hell as remooving the roundabout made a valley ?

the island was high ground, they took all that away, It might have disperse the incoming water from all four roads and evened things out ( a bit like traffic management) , now all the water meets in the middle with no where to go ( a bit like traffic management) and you get chaos,

lesson one, don't tamper with nature,
lesson two, don't fix what aint broke,

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on Fri Jun 17 2016, 23:33
wind you up ? moi , I'm just an observer, I say as i see and report, As many others have noticed in the 40 odd years i have travelled round marus bridge this is the first time ever the banks of the brook have burst, is it a freak,is it global warming,is it summut to do with too many leaves on the track or the wrong kind of rain, All I know is,,,,it was alright before they took the island away,
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on Sat Jun 18 2016, 08:56
I do not have any trouble with the traffic lights much better now than when it was a roundabout
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on Thu Jun 23 2016, 14:20
Again today no traffic, what a wonderful improvement, that's now 5/5 clear runs Marus Bridge Junction (ex roundabout) - Page 4 709307421
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on Thu Jun 23 2016, 14:27
I have been asked by fireplace to find out why they have not started to build the noo link road from Goose Green to Westwood Smile
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on Thu Jun 23 2016, 15:56
Delays caused by incompetent budgeting. (Plus the fact it was stopped at Westwood due to legal wrangling)
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on Thu Jun 23 2016, 20:08
It could be serious, no signs at all of action not even making room for the contractors cabins and welfare units,

but worry not grid lock lovers you have 20 weeks to revel in the gas pipe improvements starting on July the 11, Yes 20 lovely weeks of roadworks,street closures and slowed down journey times this summer Autumn and winter, Very Happy
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on Thu Jun 23 2016, 20:10
They were spraying poisons on the route earlier today. I told them off for contaminating my land, They came on trying to show they hadn't touched anywhere till I showed them where they had burned plants from the last time. They skulked away.
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on Thu Jun 23 2016, 20:11
There are still another 7 weeks of resurfacing on Ormskirk road yet, and it is closed on Sundays.
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