Higher Incers V Lower Incers

Where's the boundary?

Is there one?


I wise man once wrote:


The boundary between Lower Ince and Higher Ince doesn't exist, apart from in the minds of the locals.


Here

And I bet the vast majority of either camp will say they live in Wigan.

There is no official boundary between Higher Ince and Lower Ince. Opinions differ amongst locals. That's because it's not real, only a fairy story.

Fairy story?!


Insult to injury, salt in the wounds.

The train line is the boundary.

Mac wrote:The train line is the boundary.

Therefore Britannia Bridge is in Higher Ince, the same as Rose Bridge.



Expect complaints and a gnashing of teeth.

^^^^^^^^



And to calm the Mester down a bit:





Teeth will be provided!

Mac wrote:The train line is the boundary.

Hence the phrase.




















And retires to a safe distance.

Corky Ringspot wrote:

Mac wrote:The train line is the boundary.

Therefore Britannia Bridge is in Higher Ince, the same as Rose Bridge.

You're getting up to lots of drivelment this morning, Corky! I've not checked, but imagine where the Lower Ince railway line ran would put Britannia Bridge on the Lower Ince side?

A bridge too far?

See the map: www.disused-stations.org.uk

Was unaware of a hospital in Ince until seeing the map, Jo Anne.


Google is throwing back info for Ince Ward (RAEI)

The hospital was on what is now Seaman Way, I will stand to be corrected, but I think it was highly infectious deceases.

Map to follow... hang on...

as a kid growing up there, i always thought the bridge on ince green lane as the boundary... and willy fosters was in higher ince too.... britannia bridge is lower ince

Cadfael wrote:

Map to follow... hang on...

A lesser man would now make reference to a filthy joke and use the word contagious.



But not I

QTPIE wrote:as a kid growing up there, i always thought the bridge on ince green lane as the boundary... and willy fosters was in higher ince too.... britannia bridge is lower ince

Mac probably has it right with the railway line.


Makes you wonder if the Higher and Lower titles only appeared after the line went through.

More knowledge.


And it didn't take him ages after all.

As regards the border, I would say Lower Ince is West of the railway bridge at Ince Central Church (Ince Station), and Higher ince is East of it.

I'd been wondering where the 'boundary' is on the canal towpath. Thinking about it again, is Canal Terrace in either?

Canal Terrace, Ince (Zoopla)

I don't think there is a boundary. I reckon, before everything was built up, there was two 'settlements' in Ince in Makerfield, one developing around the Manchester Road and one around the Warrington Road. With a big field between them. All was in Ince in Makerfield, but one got called Higher Ince and one Lower Ince.
That was in the days when it was obvious. Two settlements, with half a mile of countryside between them. You'd probably be able to see one from another and the local lads would meet up, on the field in the middle, throw stones at each other and, sometimes, have a fight.
Nowadays, everything is built up and merged into one.
And nobody wants to live in Lower Ince anymore, it has to be called Spring View! A bit like anybody who lives at the top end of Westhoughton all want to say they live in Lostock, 'cos it's a bit posh in Lostock!!

Higher and lower reaches of an river?

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Ince is an old word for 'marsh', I have read in Past Forward the area around Clarrington Forge was originally boggy marshland.

Past Forward - It Happened in Ince

I draw your attention to the Higher and Lower Lane reference to Sunday walks to church.

- New public notice-board on Warrington Road, Lower Ince -

"These have been appearing in various places in the 'Township' of Wigan North. The crest is that of the former Ince-in-Makerfield Urban District Council, which was absorbed into the Metropolitan Borough of Wigan in 1974".


What sort of illogical folk are we maulin' wi' 'ere?

The township of Wigan North is south of Wigan?

And Ince-in-Makerfield Urban District Council, was NOT absorbed into the Metropolitan Borough of Wigan in 1974.


Them's knownowts!

I notice Mache's links are attributed to DAVID LONG (of WW?).